Why is my concrete dark grey
Homeowner Ruins Fresh Poured Concrete Driveway!
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hi david o'dell here with odell complete
concrete this is part two
of a two-part series so this is going to
be the end of this one the first one we
just showed the garage floor being
replaced now we're going to do the
entire driveway remove and replace
widen it
it's going to be a lot lot better area a
lot better use of space here
plus we did we found out in the first
video that we have we only have two
inches of slope from the garage floor to
the city sidewalk which isn't enough in
65 feet
so that's why the garage was flooding
you know before we got here
now what we're going to do is we're
going to put some drains and we're going
to drill through that curved face at the
bottom of the flow line which picks up
six inches of slope so now all of a
sudden you got eight inches or so you
can work with
that's the difference with drains
you pick up the curb face height
now we're just breaking it out that was
a separate part they did at some time
that's a vermeer ctx 100 with the uh
erskine breaker
also in a previous video we did a curb
beyond this
wood fence back further
and we're going to continue that curb on
out
so this is just going to be a raised
curb and then it's a double-sided picket
fence so he just took off the one side
of the pickets and then they're going to
drop back down on top of the curb
so that's the idea behind that he'll
have to cut them all of course
but they're going to all be the same
length because i'm going to put the
curve in level so it's going to make it
real easy
now i got carlos out here which i always
get when i have a full load to remove a
super 10 i always bring him in
so that initial pile he removed was
actually from the garage floor i just
stockpiled it over there with my mini
tractor
and now i'm just on the back end i'm
gonna i went around the perimeter with
the small tractor just so you wouldn't
damage the house or get too close to the
house so i could maneuver that little
three footer in those tight areas and
kind of clear the perimeter for them in
advance
now i'm just pushing into them
with uh you know the small tractor
also we're taking a little dirt at the
same time because every scoop is going
to have a little dirt in there there's
no getting around that
so what that means is because this kind
of is coming out about three and a half
four inches thick
and the elevations aren't going to
change a whole lot other than the cross
slope to a drain in the planter bed
but it means that i could either put
base in here and get it back to three
and a half four inches deep or i could
go ahead and pour five and a half inches
deep without base
and
my thinking is is that five and a half
inches of coffee is better than
three and a half inches with base
so i'm just gonna pour it thick
that's basically what it boils down to
there is some sprinklers you can see how
there's some broken lines that went
across the old driveway because he had
sprinklers down that strip
of grass in between the two ribbons
and then he also had sprinklers that
drip line that went along these bushes
so we've gotta abandon a lot of
sprinklers and then just pull a new
pvc across because that pvc that we hit
was that uh really thin gauge where when
you step on it it cracks that kind of
stuff
so we ended up going with the 40
schedule 40.
yeah i can never figure out why they put
the cheap pvc and you know because all
the works in the trench digging the
trench and putting it together and i
mean you get the schedule 40 you're not
saving much money
by going skimping on the stuff
underground
so this new curb is going to encase
those steel posts even though they have
a one foot footing on them
it'll get encased again with some new
concrete and some
reinforcement in there
the way i dug this drain line in is
actually i just used the laser and i
went ahead and hit the bottom of that
trench all the way through
to make sure that because you know when
you over dig a trench
and then you put loose material under
there to adjust your pipe well what
happens in the future
is that pipe drops
because you got uncompacted soil
underneath you know your pipe
so
you got to dig that pipe that
underground perfect
that way you got good solid undisturbed
soil to set your drain line on
that way in the future it don't drop and
pull apart the seams because that's what
happens
there's the pipe there he cut through
all that putting those posts in because
he had a drain in the back initially
so we're going to tie in right at the
front
to that old drain there's about five
feet of the old left that hits goes
through the curb face
now since we're widening everything so
we had to move all the sprinkler heads
back
and i used some funny pipe on those
heads that way i could just kind of
maneuver them around until i get the
concrete poured and then i can
put them into the position after that
form comes out
so we're higher than that old sidewalk
at this point
just a little bit so another word will
happen probably in the future someone's
gonna have to remove that sidewalk
type back into the new driveway at the
right height
but there's a lot of concrete to do on
this property the whole backyard needs
concrete too so
another day another pour
and i'm just running 45s on this it's a
little easier to snake when you got 45s
or push a water hose through
we did two drains in the planter about
10 feet apart
down there on the low end by the garage
the main problem is he has a chunk of
concrete on that side yard
that is really kind of too low we
ideally you take all the on these kind
of properties with a detached garage
that was put in level with the cease out
you just demo all the concrete around
the whole backyard raise the garage
floor up
everything around it and just get some
positive slope
but it's costly
you know the funny thing about these
garages is i've actually jacked them off
of the foundation with bottle jacks
raised the stem while dropped them back
down
and i did a few of those actually
here's the curb all set up i had to
notch it up and over those uh footings
for those fence posts just at one spot
there
so the new concrete will encase that and
then i have one 3 8 inch uh owens
corning it's called pink bar
it's uh supposedly comparable to half
inch steel according to their test they
did there at the lab but
um i like it really because it doesn't
rust that's why i use it
now the concrete in the in the garage
which is in part one that's drying right
now that's already been placed just
sitting on that while while we uh set up
the driveway
there's carlos which helped finish you
can see that part one in the garage
now we're getting ready to strip this
little curb and you know i had one
percent accelerator in that curb and the
garage floor
so it went off really nicely
i'm just using a half inch top tool
and then a half inch radius edger
because i put some see the plastic board
i screwed that into the picket fence
just to give me a nice elevation
and that way it's not going to be
touching that wood as well
now i'm going to edge it along that
existing curb where they meet that's
another maneuver that i will do at some
point
oh here it is
look like this
that's a 5 inch wide
12 inch long
trowel there so 5 inches covers that
whole top just about especially once you
have your edgers run
so the whole setup on this is cross
slope into the planter where the trees
are and then that's where the drains are
the pipe itself is actually running
under the driveway and then it tees off
into the planter bed
so the beauty of that is if you ever
wanted to plant something in this area
and you started digging you're not going
to get into the drain it's not going to
be in the way in other words
and it's protected because it's below
the concrete
right there where the gas meter is
the concrete was wrapped around that gas
line whenever i get into these old
houses that you know 100 800 years old
and original all original equipment
i try to avoid getting their pipes
because if you break one these
situations you could potentially chase
them all the way down the street to find
a connection point
you know that's how corroded they are
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we're setting these the reinforcement
about 18 inch centers both directions
also i'm going to add some fiber mesh
into the load
i add the fiber when the truck gets or i
just climb up on the truck and dump it
in
mix it for about three to five minutes
and you get a good mixture
this is all ready to pour we've got it
compacted see the space underneath the
form that's how you know that it's over
over four inches thick
there's that gas line i just saw cut
that
also it lessens the likelihood of it
cracking because i have that 45 there
there's a nice overhead view with the
drone
this is a a ready mix also known as
associated
there's a valley off of this garage
i just sloped it because that patio and
the garage the garage is level the patio
existing is pretty low
so i had to create somewhat of a
you know drainage pattern over to that
side yard
and you can't go a lot you know because
we have a cross slope right that's going
to be about two inches across so so now
as far as soap from garage floor to end
of pipe and street now we're down to
about four inches right
of slope so
by time you get cross up and you get
your drains
above top of
flow line in the street um you don't
want to get too much crossover you lose
all your soap to street
pretty tricky situation here
i got a nice hook what these hooks are
that we're using to pull the bars up
they're really designed for fifth wheels
it's the tool you use to reach out over
there to uh i guess disconnect your
fifth wheel
but it's beautiful because it has a hook
on it and it's about three feet long
we ran out of concrete now if i had this
thing graded you know at three three and
a half four inches i would have made it
but
you know since i didn't since i went
thick instead of adding bass
that's what you run into but
thick concrete's better than thin
carving on base
i only i got a yard here you know
you know what happens a lot of time when
you get a yard from a plant
uh the drivers you know they're used to
just doing kind of a routine you know
wash the top of the truck down clean the
fins blah blah well when you do that
with the yard
you run into a problem with really wet
concrete
so that's why you always have to think
about well how many yards do i got
what should i do
to get it there that you know it's
within you know five inch or six inch
long
i had what i ended up doing because
that's that last yard was pretty wet
i ended up pushing all that wet stuff
into my first load
and remixing it with the stuff that was
already on the ground a lot more work
you know but um i just didn't like the
looks of that so i had to do it
we have juan here finishing on this
drive and we have carlos
then of course my son tyler he's out
he's traveling
we're gonna do a lot of saw cuts in this
we're gonna do one joint off the corner
of that step
you know to get me overnight without
cracking problem
and then we'll do one there off of the
sidewalk
and then i'll come back and i'll cut
this up
wait a couple days because it is drying
slow because uh we got cloud coverage
we're only at about 70 degrees high
overnight for about 50.
so i actually had to wait two days to
get a cut in here
because it was that you know fresh it
wasn't normally i can cut these the next
day especially with the fiber mesh i add
in there
that holds that surface together so when
that blade's cutting it doesn't spall it
you know but uh didn't work this time so
i had to wait two days rather than just
go back
that's a little mini fresno there
which is nice you know if you don't want
to get any missed spots because that's
gonna
conform to the slope that you've already
got with the ball float so it's going to
really hit every square inch of it
notice we have a saw cut out of the
garage which you can see in part one how
we did that but that that cut in the
middle of the garage is going to
continue right through the driveway in
the garage i went with 3000 psi one
percent polar set out outside i just
went with straight 3000 psi no
accelerators
and you could really tell the difference
like the garage was about four hours
you know beginning to end on the dry
time and finish then out here we're
there about a good six and a half hours
we ended up brooming that along the
house already
because that's where it dried out first
on the high side
so we'll bring that and work our way to
the planter bed
my horse hair broom had a bunch of
dingleberries in it so i had to uh use
wands nylon
my horsehair didn't get rinsed out so i
had all those crunchies in it
and i just wasn't gonna get the job done
so i had to uh use this nylon
which worked pretty darn good really
add a nice texture to it
but texture doesn't really matter
because you're going to see what
happened what the homeowner did to this
concrete after i left
he got on it a little early with the
water hose
and kind of uh he almost did a sand wash
on it
you know
you see those little that's the fiber
mesh you can see there balling up as you
pull the broom across
and that's really a good sign because if
you can see the fiber you know that it's
in there
you didn't get shorted
that fiber wears off pretty short order
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so this whole driveway that we did here
was a was a trade out because bob the
owner here he's a pilot which flies
banners along the beach
and that we swapped he flew the banner
for a few weeks
and now i did all this
that was our trade-off but here's the
next day
we got back here to strip it out and saw
cut it
actually this is we waited two days
before we came back because it was
drying that slow
which is a good sign because the longer
it takes to cure out the stronger
inevitably it's going to be
there's brody that's his the male dog
the female dog i forget her name but
or looks real similar to my dog
hi david o'dell here i'm with the
homeowner bob i just arrived back on the
job site the next day after the pour
and right when i got a truck i went well
what happened here bob anyway
because i see footprints and it looks
like you dragged the hose on it
uh can you explain exactly what you were
doing out here i walked on it and didn't
know i wasn't supposed to walk on it was
a little green and i drug
water pressure
so then it looks like it snowed out here
this morning or overnight yeah right now
it looks
really bad well let's take a look at all
the footprints
these are my number size clothes so it
looks like right here what you did is uh
you had some footprints and then you
tried to yeah i stuffed it a little bit
you scuffed it up a little bit more yeah
yeah that's my signature man well what
else do we got
yeah these are definitely your footprint
what size is that ten ten or eleven
those are twelves oh
yeah that's a batch
but i like the custom look
look at that whoa what do we got here
how did this that looks kind of
interesting that's where i put a lot of
the water pressure
okay
when i had it in the nozzle form how
about this particular location i must
have drug the
hose through there
well even as bad as it looks right now
the good news is
once this is all cured out white
you're not going to see any of it
another moment it's going to hold on
it's going to all disappear good i
appreciate that so that's the good news
so if anybody ever sees this the next
day after a pour
unless it's really embossed in the
concrete
all this is gonna disappear
so it's not as bad as it looks in other
words i appreciate the great job to help
it was a lesson learned yeah you're
welcome
yeah so i'm gonna go back on this job
and i'm gonna catch it again you know
once it's all carried out and we're
gonna see if we can still see those
marks and we can reference this video
to the to a walk through in the future
on this just to see if i'm right about
all these marks that he put in there
fading out
so we've got you know a good four inch
so we're gonna go one inch deep on the
cuts
need 25
of the depth
that's why um saw cutting is
better
because it's real hard to do
hand joints at one inch deep or if
you're doing six inch concrete or
anything thicker trying to run a joiner
that deep to get that 20
is nearly impossible
the moment of truth is when you break
out the water to start cleaning
that's when you find out is the water
draining or isn't it
and in this case it drained really well
i was kind of surprised that it did as
well
as it did considering what we were
working with here
so those are all the tire marks from the
tractor going in and out
you know another option to get neat get
these properties in this area to slope
uh properly is to change
the design on the apron approaches
instead of ramping up you come up just
that they're like at nine percent slow
for seven feet
come in there at about two percent and
just ramp up the wings to where uh city
sidewalk might be and you pick up all
that soap that way too
that's probably what i would do
change the whole drawing on the
schematics down at the building
department
for these approaches you know
and drop them down
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